MagnusVonMagnum
Apr 26, 05:07 PM
What a freaking RIP-OFF. You could buy 20 new songs a year for that instead (well not on Apple anymore sine they royally screwed everyone on some BS basis of "85 cents songs" to offset the "$1.29" ones except that as most of us predicted, there are hardly any 85 cents songs in existence yet a heck of lot of $1.29 ones. In other words, all they did was jack up prices to cover crap artists who can't sing and don't write their own songs and make farting noises and call it art.)
Meanwhile, what good would this service do? Do you seriously think they're going to let you access your music that you did NOT buy from iTunes??? (i.e. your CD collection dumped to iTunes) NO WAY. You'd have to UPLOAD the entire library first. How LONG would that take? Ridiculous. Then you miss a payment and they delete it all.... It's far more likely it's only for songs you already bought (in which case you could already just 'buy' them again and download them for free; in other words the service is worthless).
What most people would prefer I think is a flat fee music-on-demand service where you can listen to ANY music you want from the entire library. Pandora, Sonus, etc. already offer this service so Apple's "retrieve your own library online" is stupid, IMO. You could rent some storage somewhere and just upload your music there and download it anywhere on the Net WITHOUT APPLE even being involved. The whole thing strikes me as a cash grab from Apple to make you pay for the music you already paid for ALL OVER AGAIN. Bought 100 songs? 5 years you bought 'em again. No value.
My entire music library is only 70GB in AAC without music videos. That would almost fit on an iPod Touch 64GB or USB 64GB stick as it is, let alone my Netbook which has 160GB on it and my MBP which has 500GB. So the ONLY way this service could be useful is if I could access ALL MY MOVIES from anywhere on the Net. That would require 2.6TB of storage, though. I don't see Apple covering that and I wouldn't even want to TRY to upload all those movies from my own library (and Apple doesn't even sell (let alone in good quality) 40% of them and 95% of the HD ones.
No, a flat fee for unlimited rentals (music and movies) would be a good deal. I don't see Apple offering that any time soon, if EVER.
Meanwhile, what good would this service do? Do you seriously think they're going to let you access your music that you did NOT buy from iTunes??? (i.e. your CD collection dumped to iTunes) NO WAY. You'd have to UPLOAD the entire library first. How LONG would that take? Ridiculous. Then you miss a payment and they delete it all.... It's far more likely it's only for songs you already bought (in which case you could already just 'buy' them again and download them for free; in other words the service is worthless).
What most people would prefer I think is a flat fee music-on-demand service where you can listen to ANY music you want from the entire library. Pandora, Sonus, etc. already offer this service so Apple's "retrieve your own library online" is stupid, IMO. You could rent some storage somewhere and just upload your music there and download it anywhere on the Net WITHOUT APPLE even being involved. The whole thing strikes me as a cash grab from Apple to make you pay for the music you already paid for ALL OVER AGAIN. Bought 100 songs? 5 years you bought 'em again. No value.
My entire music library is only 70GB in AAC without music videos. That would almost fit on an iPod Touch 64GB or USB 64GB stick as it is, let alone my Netbook which has 160GB on it and my MBP which has 500GB. So the ONLY way this service could be useful is if I could access ALL MY MOVIES from anywhere on the Net. That would require 2.6TB of storage, though. I don't see Apple covering that and I wouldn't even want to TRY to upload all those movies from my own library (and Apple doesn't even sell (let alone in good quality) 40% of them and 95% of the HD ones.
No, a flat fee for unlimited rentals (music and movies) would be a good deal. I don't see Apple offering that any time soon, if EVER.
gopher
Jul 31, 12:59 PM
The Future Shock video here:
http://www.mprove.de/uni/asi/futureshock.html
Which was among the Knowledge Navigator videos sounds remarkably like this technology.
http://www.mprove.de/uni/asi/futureshock.html
Which was among the Knowledge Navigator videos sounds remarkably like this technology.
thunng8
Apr 19, 05:01 AM
I've looked at Anandtech, Macworld and a whole bunch of other benchmarks. Intel IGP either performs slightly worse or slightly better than the NVIDIA 320M.
Those comparisons showing the HD3000 being almost as good as the 320M does not relate to the Macbook Air. The next Macbook Air is likely to use the ULV Sandy Bridge which is hugely underclocked compared to the HD3000 used in the MBP.
Those comparisons showing the HD3000 being almost as good as the 320M does not relate to the Macbook Air. The next Macbook Air is likely to use the ULV Sandy Bridge which is hugely underclocked compared to the HD3000 used in the MBP.
daneoni
Sep 14, 10:48 PM
Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/will-not-fix-your-computer/dp/B0001TP7BW
Cheers.
On topic: I got this today. It was either this or 8GB o RAM. I went with the cheaper option.
http://www.amazon.com/will-not-fix-your-computer/dp/B0001TP7BW
Cheers.
On topic: I got this today. It was either this or 8GB o RAM. I went with the cheaper option.
thejakill
Mar 12, 07:18 PM
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I was at Brea Mall today at 1:00 and there was a short line. I came back at 4:00 and the line was gone.
Did any units actually show up for sale, or did they tell the people to go home?
I was at Brea Mall today at 1:00 and there was a short line. I came back at 4:00 and the line was gone.
Did any units actually show up for sale, or did they tell the people to go home?
jav6454
Apr 25, 06:46 PM
Plutonius
During the massive PM telling everyone the game started, he and I were the only ones in the group. (remember it's 5 pms at a time). Hence I vote for you out of spite of me not being the only one PMd.
During the massive PM telling everyone the game started, he and I were the only ones in the group. (remember it's 5 pms at a time). Hence I vote for you out of spite of me not being the only one PMd.
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 08:42 AM
And that is reason enough that Samsung should be allowed to rip off Apple products? - I don't think so.
It's not like Apple never ripped off anyone else. iPhone ring a bell :
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_011007.html
Let's not go claim that one side is totally white and the other totally black. These are huge corporations we're talking about. They do things for their own profits.
And anyway, as has been shown, aside from the Vibrant and international i9000 models (those pictures everyone going "Samsung are copycats!" are trumpeting around), the Galaxy S line is quite different from the iPhone and while the icon grid looks the same, one is inside the App Drawer and the other on the home screen. The TouchWiz homescreen doesn't have the icon grid.
This case isn't so clear cut. And now adding the Samsung counter-suit, it's even less. To claim one side is wrong and the other right at this point is quite disingenuous.
Again, let the courts decide. Siding with one corporation or another should not be something we bother with as consumers.
It's not like Apple never ripped off anyone else. iPhone ring a bell :
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_011007.html
Let's not go claim that one side is totally white and the other totally black. These are huge corporations we're talking about. They do things for their own profits.
And anyway, as has been shown, aside from the Vibrant and international i9000 models (those pictures everyone going "Samsung are copycats!" are trumpeting around), the Galaxy S line is quite different from the iPhone and while the icon grid looks the same, one is inside the App Drawer and the other on the home screen. The TouchWiz homescreen doesn't have the icon grid.
This case isn't so clear cut. And now adding the Samsung counter-suit, it's even less. To claim one side is wrong and the other right at this point is quite disingenuous.
Again, let the courts decide. Siding with one corporation or another should not be something we bother with as consumers.
iJohnHenry
Feb 28, 06:51 PM
Not sure if the crew gets anything above union wage.
You mean like eating and shelter?
The man is a megalomaniacal prick.
Too smart for his own good.
You mean like eating and shelter?
The man is a megalomaniacal prick.
Too smart for his own good.
Apple OC
Jan 30, 12:29 PM
Charlie Sheen is on the short track of life ... soon to depart from this world.
joepunk
May 1, 10:23 PM
It's going to be midnight on the East Coast by the time the President makes the official announcement. I could make a celebration pumpkin pie and it will get done before the official announcement.
chrmjenkins
Apr 25, 11:00 AM
Who thumbed down every post on this page?
Except one from aggie...
The posts start at 0, not one.
Did you thumb them back up, or were you under a misconception?
Somebody must have thumbed them back up. They were all at -1 except the one from aggie.
That's suspicious... ;)
I feel like I’m being set up here. :confused:
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Except one from aggie...
The posts start at 0, not one.
Did you thumb them back up, or were you under a misconception?
Somebody must have thumbed them back up. They were all at -1 except the one from aggie.
That's suspicious... ;)
I feel like I’m being set up here. :confused:
whooossshhhhh
rasmasyean
May 1, 10:37 PM
Killed in Islamabad, Pakistan. He was inside a mansion with some family. Can't believe he was hiding in plain sight, especially when It could have been easier for Pakistan which had been supposedly proactive in fighting the Taliban as well as Osama. Can't imagine this will help Pakistan-US ties in the least, rather strain them.
Sound's unbelievable. LOL That's "hiding in caves" for you.
Sound's unbelievable. LOL That's "hiding in caves" for you.
FloatingBones
Nov 17, 03:42 PM
Hey Apple - ya think your user base might be interested in Flash??
The response means that users are interested in viewing videos -- even if those views are encapsulated in a legacy wrapper of Flash. Once content providers have updated their videos, there will be no need for this bridge.
In case you missed the news, there was yet another zero day bug in Adobe Flash (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-273.txt). Read that transcript: the bug affects Windows, Mac, Solaris, Linux, and Android (!) devices. Adobe still thinks that quarterly updates of their software are good enough, and the next one isn't scheduled until February of 2011. As Steve Gibson notes in the podcast:
"[Adobe:] how is that quarterly update cycle going for you?"
Apple was not willing to bind the safety and performance of their browser to Adobe Flash. Good choice!
Yeah, you know what's best for us users though - so we should be elated that you are resisting support for it tooth and nail.
Apple approved the app. They are allowing individuals in the marketplace to decide what's best for them.
Hopefully, the websites that provide their videos through a legacy Flash wrapper will soon be providing their users with a choice.
I am elated that iOS Safari has no Flash support. I do not want the CPU suck, the identity suck, the unpredictable behavior, and the exposure to Adobe bugs. If you want those things, feel free to get an Android device.
The response means that users are interested in viewing videos -- even if those views are encapsulated in a legacy wrapper of Flash. Once content providers have updated their videos, there will be no need for this bridge.
In case you missed the news, there was yet another zero day bug in Adobe Flash (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-273.txt). Read that transcript: the bug affects Windows, Mac, Solaris, Linux, and Android (!) devices. Adobe still thinks that quarterly updates of their software are good enough, and the next one isn't scheduled until February of 2011. As Steve Gibson notes in the podcast:
"[Adobe:] how is that quarterly update cycle going for you?"
Apple was not willing to bind the safety and performance of their browser to Adobe Flash. Good choice!
Yeah, you know what's best for us users though - so we should be elated that you are resisting support for it tooth and nail.
Apple approved the app. They are allowing individuals in the marketplace to decide what's best for them.
Hopefully, the websites that provide their videos through a legacy Flash wrapper will soon be providing their users with a choice.
I am elated that iOS Safari has no Flash support. I do not want the CPU suck, the identity suck, the unpredictable behavior, and the exposure to Adobe bugs. If you want those things, feel free to get an Android device.
Snowy_River
Dec 1, 07:08 PM
Okay, now I might end up being branded as an Apple apologist for this, but this thread is bugging me.
Really, people, lighten up! It's like the corner of the carpet is smoking a little bit and people start shouting about how the whole house is about to burn down.
Now, certainly, these issues should be looked at with all due diligence. But do you honestly think that Apple isn't? Do you honestly think that Apple has simple ignored security all this time? Certainly not. The fact that OS X is as secure as it is clearly shows that Apple has done a good job so far. Now, maybe we've crossed an invisible barrier on the scale of the visibility of the platform, and now a lot more people are trying to target OS X, so more vulnerabilities are being found. But, there really is a big difference between a vulnerability and an exploit in the wild. iAdware is the closest thing to a true exploit I've heard of to date, and we don't even know what kind of vector it uses to get itself installed.
So, really, lay off the heavy handed "Apple has to start paying attention to security" nonsense. The implication that Apple hasn't been paying attention to security is just irritating, to say the least.
Really, people, lighten up! It's like the corner of the carpet is smoking a little bit and people start shouting about how the whole house is about to burn down.
Now, certainly, these issues should be looked at with all due diligence. But do you honestly think that Apple isn't? Do you honestly think that Apple has simple ignored security all this time? Certainly not. The fact that OS X is as secure as it is clearly shows that Apple has done a good job so far. Now, maybe we've crossed an invisible barrier on the scale of the visibility of the platform, and now a lot more people are trying to target OS X, so more vulnerabilities are being found. But, there really is a big difference between a vulnerability and an exploit in the wild. iAdware is the closest thing to a true exploit I've heard of to date, and we don't even know what kind of vector it uses to get itself installed.
So, really, lay off the heavy handed "Apple has to start paying attention to security" nonsense. The implication that Apple hasn't been paying attention to security is just irritating, to say the least.
elray
Apr 14, 08:30 AM
I will probably buy the white iPhone 4 if it really does come out this month. My current (and first) iPhone is a refurbed white 3g with a cracked screen. I had planned on upgrading to the white iPhone 4 until they kept pushing the release back, then seemingly cancelled it completely. I was just going to wait for the 5 at that point, but now with the rumored delay I don't think I want to wait until fall (or later) for a new phone.
ScottWebb
Apr 6, 10:40 AM
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mattcube64
Sep 14, 09:57 PM
... I think today, September 14th, was made just for me.
Picked up the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition from Best Buy at midnight.
http://www.gameguru.in/img/halo-reach-legendary-edition-01.jpg
Already beat the campaign. It was freaking awesome. There's definitely a few things I'd change; but the whole game is just filled with fan service.
Then, this afternoon I finally found a copy of Phantasy Star Portable 2. It came out today, but almost no stores are carrying it. Which is a shame, because I absolutely LOVE the Phantasy Star Online series. I've already put over 10 hours into the demo alone.
http://www.ffinsider.net/psp-iso/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Phantasy-Star-Portable-2-Demo.jpg
Then also picked up:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/files/f1618918260edb4395dcea1cb6b2cd48/resources/ResourceHiresImage/thumbnails/linkin_park_a_thousand_suns_medium.jpg?1280926384
http://seat42f.com/images/stories/Contests/tim-and-eric-awesome-show-season-4.jpg
... and finally a bunch of $2.50 copies of KOTOR on Steam as gifts to my friends and some online buddies. It's my favorite game of all time; and for $2.50 EVERYONE should play through it.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/5/516675_47672_front.jpg
Picked up the Halo: Reach Legendary Edition from Best Buy at midnight.
http://www.gameguru.in/img/halo-reach-legendary-edition-01.jpg
Already beat the campaign. It was freaking awesome. There's definitely a few things I'd change; but the whole game is just filled with fan service.
Then, this afternoon I finally found a copy of Phantasy Star Portable 2. It came out today, but almost no stores are carrying it. Which is a shame, because I absolutely LOVE the Phantasy Star Online series. I've already put over 10 hours into the demo alone.
http://www.ffinsider.net/psp-iso/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Phantasy-Star-Portable-2-Demo.jpg
Then also picked up:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/files/f1618918260edb4395dcea1cb6b2cd48/resources/ResourceHiresImage/thumbnails/linkin_park_a_thousand_suns_medium.jpg?1280926384
http://seat42f.com/images/stories/Contests/tim-and-eric-awesome-show-season-4.jpg
... and finally a bunch of $2.50 copies of KOTOR on Steam as gifts to my friends and some online buddies. It's my favorite game of all time; and for $2.50 EVERYONE should play through it.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/5/516675_47672_front.jpg
MrMoore
Apr 26, 12:06 PM
Would this be included if you are a current MobileMe subscriber. My subscription doesn't end till 2012. If this is a replacment or revamp of MobileMe, would my subscription carry over to this feature?
cvaldes
May 4, 11:34 AM
This actually brings up more questions than answers though:
1) Is this a permanent move to a Fall Release of the iPhone?
2) When, if ever, are they going to unite the CDMA and GSM iPhone releases (possibly in iPhone 5 with "World Chip")?
3) Does this affect the timing of iOS's release, which has traditionally been released with the new iPhone and has been centered around the iPhone's hardware?
4) The iPod touch has traditionally been released months after the iPhone. If the iPhone is released around Sept, will they release the iPod touch along with it?
1.) I doubt anything in Apple's schedule is etched in concrete. They will release new products when they are ready. Apple doesn't really need to follow any specific timetable. They got out of tradeshows so they weren't obligated to release new product at a third-party event. If Apple wants to move the iPhone release around the calendar, you better believe they will do whatever they damned well please.
2.) No one knows. You'll find out when the rest of us do: when Apple announces. The iPhone 5 is a possible candidate (the next likely opportunity would be the iPhone 6). The iPhone 4 (CDMA version) actually has a combo GSM-CDMA Qualcomm chip, although Apple does not utilize the GSM circuitry (there's no SIM card in that handset).
3.) It's entirely possible that Apple would change the release date for iOS to match a change of the release date of new phone hardware. Because they're Apple and they can do whatever they damned well please. They keep their own schedules.
4.) I personally do not think the supply chain can support a simultaneous iPhone/iPod touch release. While Apple can generally release things whenever they want, the iPods are a bit of the exception. iPod sales skyrocket during the holidays, so Apple really needs to have their holiday product line set by November. The more likely scenario (if Apple were to delay the iPhone 5 from June/July) would be a late August/early September release of the iPhone 5 and an October release of the iPod touch.
1) Is this a permanent move to a Fall Release of the iPhone?
2) When, if ever, are they going to unite the CDMA and GSM iPhone releases (possibly in iPhone 5 with "World Chip")?
3) Does this affect the timing of iOS's release, which has traditionally been released with the new iPhone and has been centered around the iPhone's hardware?
4) The iPod touch has traditionally been released months after the iPhone. If the iPhone is released around Sept, will they release the iPod touch along with it?
1.) I doubt anything in Apple's schedule is etched in concrete. They will release new products when they are ready. Apple doesn't really need to follow any specific timetable. They got out of tradeshows so they weren't obligated to release new product at a third-party event. If Apple wants to move the iPhone release around the calendar, you better believe they will do whatever they damned well please.
2.) No one knows. You'll find out when the rest of us do: when Apple announces. The iPhone 5 is a possible candidate (the next likely opportunity would be the iPhone 6). The iPhone 4 (CDMA version) actually has a combo GSM-CDMA Qualcomm chip, although Apple does not utilize the GSM circuitry (there's no SIM card in that handset).
3.) It's entirely possible that Apple would change the release date for iOS to match a change of the release date of new phone hardware. Because they're Apple and they can do whatever they damned well please. They keep their own schedules.
4.) I personally do not think the supply chain can support a simultaneous iPhone/iPod touch release. While Apple can generally release things whenever they want, the iPods are a bit of the exception. iPod sales skyrocket during the holidays, so Apple really needs to have their holiday product line set by November. The more likely scenario (if Apple were to delay the iPhone 5 from June/July) would be a late August/early September release of the iPhone 5 and an October release of the iPod touch.
bushido
Apr 22, 05:11 PM
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nah there r better looking HTC out there by now, the new one they got (forgot its name) with the slide out keyboard is pure sex ^^
If it has a slide-out keyboard it's already fail.
how about no? i can finally type blind again and under the desk where im not supposed to type and if i dont need it i just slide it in and use the touch winwin. but each their own
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nah there r better looking HTC out there by now, the new one they got (forgot its name) with the slide out keyboard is pure sex ^^
If it has a slide-out keyboard it's already fail.
how about no? i can finally type blind again and under the desk where im not supposed to type and if i dont need it i just slide it in and use the touch winwin. but each their own
Scallywag
Sep 30, 12:14 PM
Okay, this guy must live in a "garden" apartment or something. I live in NYC and the only place I drop calls 100% of the time is near the Verizon building by the Brooklyn Bridge. Irony of ironies.
But my dropped call percentage is less that 5%.
I live in Hell's Kitchen, and I rarely drop calls here, though data speeds during rush hour are pathetically slow.
I walk near Union Square every day on my way home from work, and every single time I'm at 5th Ave & 13th st. I drop a call... every single time... I can never hold a call near union square.
AT&T service is really not good in NYC. There's no point in my getting a 3Gs for faster 3G... it's all slow here, regardless of the model iPhone.
I drop about 15-20% of my calls. Near Union Square I drop 75-80% easily.
But my dropped call percentage is less that 5%.
I live in Hell's Kitchen, and I rarely drop calls here, though data speeds during rush hour are pathetically slow.
I walk near Union Square every day on my way home from work, and every single time I'm at 5th Ave & 13th st. I drop a call... every single time... I can never hold a call near union square.
AT&T service is really not good in NYC. There's no point in my getting a 3Gs for faster 3G... it's all slow here, regardless of the model iPhone.
I drop about 15-20% of my calls. Near Union Square I drop 75-80% easily.
iqwertyi
Sep 17, 09:33 AM
I'm all set for Gran Turismo 5 now :D
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae198/Ben_Dixon/003.jpg
Don't worry, your vision is fine. One of the wheels is for a friend at university.
How are these? I'm looking for a wheel for F1 2010 and GT5 (when they both come out).
I was about to purchase the G25 but these may do as well.
Does it have paddles?
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae198/Ben_Dixon/003.jpg
Don't worry, your vision is fine. One of the wheels is for a friend at university.
How are these? I'm looking for a wheel for F1 2010 and GT5 (when they both come out).
I was about to purchase the G25 but these may do as well.
Does it have paddles?
Wurm5150
Apr 22, 09:28 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)
It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
Eidorian
May 3, 08:47 AM
Apple refurbed are the best you can find in most cases.
Apple never puts previously damaged hardware on the refurbed store, only open boxed then returned products, or products at End Of Life (EOL). You will find TONS of the previous models on there for 15% off or more.
Any damaged goods always get parted out and used as Genius Bar parts for repair.
There are TONS of things I don't like about Apple, but they actually do refurbished good very very well.I strongly suggest against a refurbished model of older revisions. It is similar to purchasing a Core 2 model. The base 21.5" Sandy Bridge once it hits refurb would be tempting at ~$999.
Right, which is why I really need to wait for the Pro, just to see if it's price is reasonable, and if it really makes it a worthy and expandable option over the iMac.
I would've chosen the iMac over the Mac Pro in the last iteration of either machine. This new iMac is making the "expandable" option a little more moot.
I will learn how to solder and service an iMac if it saves me $1000+
This is the first worthwhile iMac solely based on the stillborn potential of Thunderbolt and the quad on the base models. It only took 5 years.
Apple never puts previously damaged hardware on the refurbed store, only open boxed then returned products, or products at End Of Life (EOL). You will find TONS of the previous models on there for 15% off or more.
Any damaged goods always get parted out and used as Genius Bar parts for repair.
There are TONS of things I don't like about Apple, but they actually do refurbished good very very well.I strongly suggest against a refurbished model of older revisions. It is similar to purchasing a Core 2 model. The base 21.5" Sandy Bridge once it hits refurb would be tempting at ~$999.
Right, which is why I really need to wait for the Pro, just to see if it's price is reasonable, and if it really makes it a worthy and expandable option over the iMac.
I would've chosen the iMac over the Mac Pro in the last iteration of either machine. This new iMac is making the "expandable" option a little more moot.
I will learn how to solder and service an iMac if it saves me $1000+
This is the first worthwhile iMac solely based on the stillborn potential of Thunderbolt and the quad on the base models. It only took 5 years.
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